GEOFF BENNETT: The Supreme Court's# tariff ruling and President Trump's## response topped off a week that saw key# developments on the international stage.

For more, we turn now to the analysis# of Brooks and Capehart.

That's David## Brooks of "The Atlantic" and# Jonathan Capehart of MS NOW.

Good evening to you both.

So, David, we will start with you.

Jonathan, feel free to#take a sip of water if you need it.

The key takeaways of this#Supreme Court tariff ruling, as you see them.

DAVID BROOKS: Well, it'll# make tariff-issuing harder,## certainly will not make them go away.# Trump has made that perfectly clear.

But just on the substance of it, it's become# clear that this tariff policy is a gigantic## economic failure.

It was designed to reduce --# to increase manufacturing jobs in the United## States.

Manufacturing jobs have continued# their decline, maybe at an accelerated rate.

At the same time, according to a Fed study this# week, 90 percent of the costs are passed on to## American consumers.

So it's a tax on Americans.# And then it's -- so it's led to inflation.

But the big picture here is that the Supreme# Court has had a pretty consistent line on## federal power.

They have given Trump# a lot of broad latitude to run the## executive branch.

But they have not given him# broad latitude to run the legislative branch.

They have said this is a clear legislative thing.# It's in the Constitution, taxing and spending,## tariffs.

It's right there.# And they're trying to draw## a line around the presidency.

Back# in like 1973-'74, a historian named## Arthur Schlesinger wrote a book called "The# Imperial Presidency" about Richard Nixon.

That wasn't even close to where we# are today.

This is the most imperial## presidency in American history.

And the# worst part is, it's accompanied not only## by a president who wants to grab every power, but# a Congress whose power is imploding voluntarily.

And so part of the problem here is# the unwillingness of Congress to## do their job.

And that leaves# a vacuum that Trump can fill.

GEOFF BENNETT: Jonathan, what about that?

President Trump has for years now push.. term and in the first year of his second term.# How significant is it, after years of the Supreme## Court really reinforcing his expansive view of# executive power, two of the justices he appointed## effectively broke with him today?

JONATHAN CAPEHART: It's a good sign## that the Supreme Court isn't as in lockstep# with the president as a lot of people feared.

The other thing -- excuse me -- never swallow just## before -- your own saliva just# before you go.

My apologies.

But the other thing#about the ruling is, to David's point,## the justices basically said in the# ruling, you know, Mr.

President,## there is a way to do what you want to do.

And# it's by doing it with the legislative branch.

So as much as it was a smackdown of the president# and his overreach, it was a reminder to Congress## that basically, yo, you guys have a job to do.# The Constitution lays it out.

Get to work.

Whether## this Congress, with this Republican majority# and particularly with this Republican speaker,## whether they will take the Supreme Court up on# its opportunity to do its job remains to be seen.

GEOFF BENNETT: Well, after the ruling,## the president took to the White House# Briefing Room.

He spok.. and he escalated his attacks against# the court and the justices themselves.

DONALD TRUMP, President of the United# States: The Supreme Court's ruling on## tariffs is deeply disappointing.

And I'm# ashamed of certain members of the court,## absolutely ashamed for not having the# courage to do what's right for our country.

They're very unpatriotic and# disloyal to our Constitution.

GEOFF BENNETT: Disloyal to our Constitution.# Is there a point at which the president's## rhetoric -- maybe we're already there --# becomes corrosive to the institution itself?

DAVID BROOKS: Well, Donald Trump has# never had an honest disagreement with## somebody and where you say, oh, I disagree# with you and without him going ad hominem.

And that is just his nature.

It is the# nature of somebody with a narcissistic## personality disorder to think, I am the# center, and everything that's an assault## on me cannot be anything but a shameful# attack on all that is right and good.

And so it's very hard.

We travel around the# country.

We meet people trying to heal America,## trying to build conversations.

And it's just# frustrating that all these people are doing## this work around the country at the same time,# day by day, there's a shredding from the top.

And so there's these forces of humanization# that are trying to have a decent country,## and then the shredding from the top is just# a constant battle of forcing dehumanization.

GEOFF BENNETT: As we have been speaking,# the president signed the executive order## establishing this 10 percent global tariff.

It# expires in 150 days unless Congress extends it.

Does that though, Jonathan, set up a trap for# Republicans in Congress, given how unpopular## tariffs are?

They're certainly going to be# pressured by President Trump to fall in line.

JONATHAN CAPEHART: And they're going to# be pressured by Democrats who want to## do something about the president's tariff regime.

So, yes, they're in a trap, they're# in a quandary, they're in a bind,## just as they are in a trap, in a# quandary, in a bind.

Let's not forget,## there's still a partial government shutdown.# And we haven't heard -- at least I haven't## heard anything about any kind of negotiations# to reopen the Department of Homeland Security.

And on the president's remarks, going after the# Supreme Court, the same Supreme Court that gave## him immunity for official acts, and he was all# happy about them then.

But of all the shameful## remarks he gave in that press conference,# when he said not only that he thought that## those justices should be ashamed, but that# their families would be ashamed of them,## and that, to me, just -- just when I thought# he couldn't get any lower, he gets lower.

And I don't know why I keep thinking he# won't go any lower, but he does.

But that,## I thought, was really shameful# on the part of the president.

GEOFF BENNETT: Let's shift our focus to the# president convening this past week the first## meeting of what he's calling his Board of# Peace, dozens of international leaders,## you see them there, discussing ongoing conflicts,# including Gaza, the rising tensions with Iran.

David, we have spoken on this program about U.S.# retrenchment.

Is this a reassertion of American## leadership, or do you see this as executive# overreach in the foreign policy sphere?

DAVID BROOKS: Yes, it's not ideal what he's doing.

And I'd say it's not ideal for a couple of# reasons.

One, there's really no recipe for## how you're going to get Hamas to disarm.# And unless you do that, there's going to## be no investment.

And so unless you have a# strategy for that, you really don't have a plan.

Second, there's not enough Palestinian input# there.

This is their place and eventually,## we hope, their country.

And they should be## beginning the redevelopment of their# own country with outside assistance.

Nonetheless, I think this is worth a shot.# I think America has led international## development programs for all through the 20th# century.

And some of them worked and some of## them didn't.

But I don't see anything# else on offer to get Gaza some aid.

The U.N.

has totally morally bankrupted# itself in that region.

They're not going## to do anything.

They don't have the trust# of the Israelis, let alone other people.## And they shouldn't have our trust, at least# on this issue.

I'm not a big U.N.

ambassador,## but, on the Middle East, they have# sacrificed their moral authority.

And so I don't see anybody else doing it.

And# so if Trump wants to lead an international## coalition to do international development in# Gaza, I don't see anything better on offer.

JONATHAN CAPEHART: Here's my question, though.

In event of an opportunity to# ask the president questions,## this is what I would ask him, Mr.# President, two-part question.

One,## where is the $10 billion you committed yesterday?# Where's that money coming from?

And, two,## into which bank is it -- offshore bank is it going# to, a bank that you, as the leader of this board,## gets to decide where this money goes# and you decide how that money is spent?

Why shouldn't the American people think# that the money that you are using,## taxpayers' money, isn't going to end up# in your own pocket or the pocket of your## family and not make it to Gaza?

That is# the question that I would love to ask.

GEOFF BENNETT: In the time that remains, I want to# get your reflections on Jesse Jackson, the civil## rights icon, two-time presidential candidate# who passed this past week at the age of 84.

JONATHAN CAPEHART: Reverend# Jackson, a historic figure.

And I think of it in terms of what Ambassador# Young said to me in an interview years ago,## that Reverend Dr.

King said to them,# most of us won't live until 40,## but if we live past 40, we will make it to 100.

And he felt an obligation if he lived past# 40.

Reverend Jackson ran for president the## first time when he was 42 years old.

And# ever since that first run in '84 and '88,## he's been -- and you could see it in his works,# an obligation to try to make the nation better.

And I think he did.

GEOFF BENNETT: David?

DAVID BROOKS: I began my c.. and Jesse Jackson, his Rainbow Coalition was# there.

Harold Washington was mayor of the time,## a great politician, Jackson, a great rhetorician.

And those two were sort of rivals because they# were very sort of different kinds of people.

But think of it.

Jackson was# instrumental to the civil rights movement,## but he also really was a formative influence# on the modern American progressive movement.

And so he did two big things in# his life.

And that's -- aside from## his nice personality and his rhetorical# style, that's a life of accomplishment.

GEOFF BENNETT: David Brooks, Jonathan Capehart,## always great to speak with# you.

Have a good weekend.